S1 Episode 5

[deanna_nwosu]: For today’s episode, I jumped across the pond for a social media superstar in the meetings and incentives industry, and it’s none other than Sabrina Myers with the Hot hospitality exchange. If you have seen her on LinkedIn or Instagram or Twitter, you’ll know that she is really a leader in the space of making sure that meeting events and hospitality professionals make sure that they have a personal brand and a voice as well as brands using these social platforms as well to broadcast their venues or their event services. So, um, Sabrina has a really interesting story in terms of her background, and she’s really a global citizen in a true sense of the phrase, and I had a great conversation with her, so I would love for you to sit back. Relax and enjoy our conversation about Sabrina’s life as a citizen of the world.

[deanna_nwosu]: Welcome back to the podcast, so happy that you are listening. I am wonderfully excited to have with today the lovely Sabrina Meyers, of Hot Hospitality Exchange. Sabrina and I kind of met online. We actually still have not met in person, although we feel like we know each. so she is definitely one of my Internet besties. One day we will be IRL besties, too, Just a matter of time. But yes, Sabrina, so happy to have you with us. Tell everyone about who you are and what you do.

[sabrina_meyers]: What a fabulous introduction. Thank you, Deanna. I do hope that we do get to become IRL besties, Um, but yes, I’m Sabrina Meyers, Uh from Hot Hospitality Exchange, which is my brand. Um, that I launched in 2017 Um, but I am a Uh event professional, so I am an event planner by trade, a global event planner. Uh, primarily have been freelancing, Uh for about eight years now, Um, and uh, before that I was in hotels, hotel sales, and now I’m in the space of Uh, virtual moderating, event, moderating, Um, and a big, big. Uh, focus of mine is social media, um, and content strategy for hotels, destinations and event businesses, and helping them to put strategies together to get clarity on their content, Um to make sure that they basically, supercharge their social media channels

[deanna_nwosu]: Wonderful. Well, I would love to know. I feel like anyone who’s an event  professional either has a really interesting story about how they fell into the industry or it started at a super young age. I don’t really find people in the middle. It’s either like in this field and I fell into events, or I  started planning parties when I was five and I always knew I wanted to do events right. Kind of where do you fall in that camp? And what got you in this industry?

[sabrina_meyers]: so I wouldn’t say that I, I always wanted to be in events. I definitely, um, didn’t study it. Um, my path was, Uh, I would say, born out of my love for hotels and travel,

 So um, you know, my parents obviously wanted me to do something very professional like being an accountant or an engineer or a lawyer. Um, as lots of parents from the Subcontinent that mine come from, do, Um, and I, of course did not deliver on that front. Um, and I was trying to figure you know, like any other teenager, I was trying to figure out what I wanted from life and what I wanted to do and what I would be good at. Um, and at that point, um, I was I would. I was a big traveller, my father was a university professor, so he would travel pretty much other month. um, uh, delivering conferences, and being, he was a speaker at conferences, and and he would take me and my mother along sometimes and I, I guess that’s where my love for five star hotels began. you know, Um, and I was like, Oh, wow, I’d love to kind of just always be around this. Um, and I realized that wasn’t something very easy to get into, Um, and shortly after that, Um, I, um, uh, I started uh, a higher diploma in Singapore, where I come from where I’m born, um, uh, in hotel management and hotel, Uh, and tourism,

 Uh, Because my brother’s best friend was a very big influence. He was like me. He wasn’t very good at professional things. He used to deliver a  takeaway for for Domino’s, Um. you know, he was a very kind of street smart person that had no interest in books whatsoever in studying, Um. But he uh, found his path and his passion and everything in food, beverage, um, in hotels, and he would invite me and my family uh, to like those luxurious high tea brunches. And you know we got to experience that in Singapore, and I was like, Oh my God, this is amazing. like I want to be doing this too, Um. So I found out where he studied Um, and that they were offering a course in hotels and tourism and hospitality and tourism. And so I convinced my father to let me do that Um, which he was like, Okay, And and then I, I did that I  absolutely loved it ’cause it was like you know hotels are like little worlds,  right, Um, You learn everything. You learned anything from how to make that perfect bed to how to pour that perfect cocktail, to you know, making your own cream, a mushroom soup to marketing and accounting. Like. what do you not learn? So I love that, Um, and uh, and then it’s a really great way to also understand what you would be good at What would be a department that you would be passionate about. So you know, I did my internship at Uh, a hotel called Emeritus Mandarin in Singapore, and I realized very quickly I  was not going to be a front office kind of person. I was not going to work at reception. I was not going to be concierge. I’m not gonna be housekeeping. Um, and Uh, After my internship, I actually went on to study and get my degree in Uh, Sydney and Australia at a private hospitality university, my first job was in sales. It was hotel sales, and I worked at the time for Starwood Hotels. When they were back Starwood, Um, and I worked at Uh, the  Sheraton on the park, Uh, in the sales department of sales coordinator. That  was my first job. Uh, for Uh, de mice, uh side of things, So that’s where my eyes kind of all opened up to this whole world of MICE. Like meetings, incentives, conferences, events, doing site inspections, Um, contracts, uh, convincing clients why they should book your hotel, Um, and really opened up that fabulous world of say. Like hospitality sales, you know, and the travel and the shows and everything. So it got my taste and that’s where I fell in love with it and I continued doing that. 

[sabrina_meyers]: Then I moved to London, uh, because I wanted to work on this side of the world, Um, and I continued in hotels. I worked for Hilton. I worked then, uh, also, er, with t  leading hotels of the world, which is a sales and marketing company representing some of the finest and it was incredible, incredible experience and I don’t regret any of it. I think it’s been uh, absolutely phenomenal, Um, and my boss uh left he decided to start his own event company in New York. Um. and he was like Sabrina. I think you should launch the London office and I was like, Wow, I was like, really.  so Um, he’s like. Would you be up to it? and I said Well, I absolutely love events. I love planning them. I’ve helped you know the teams organize the ones that we had, for you know, the various hotels and organizations that I used to work in. Um, So why not? You know how hard can it be? It was very, very hard,  and it is hard. It’s hard work. Um, and it was start up hard, right, Um, it was kind of. you’re doing everything from hiring to getting the office in order, the stationary, to um. account management to business  development. You’re pretty much doing everything. Um. And so I really was thrown into the deep end, but I did love it and I learned so much and my boss he was, just, you know, he’s one of these hospitality industry legends, so it was really amazing to be in that environment. Um, so that’s kind of how I I guess fell into events. I was hand picked and put into the field and I loved it so much I never left that pretty much was it.

[deanna_nwosu]: Awesome, wonderful. I love the journey, and Um, and when you mention kind of hey, I would like to keep doing these five s experiences. Oh, wait. that’s on Dad’s company’s dime. I’m you know, if I’m actually paying for this, I can’t afford any of this right. What a reality check. It’s really interesting too, that you’ve had several kind of career shifts. How you know one? you started with your internship and you worked in hotel  sales, Then you were a planner, and now you’re kind of really focused on being, you know, the talent at events, but also helping people with their social media strategies. Can you kind of talk about? You know how the different experiences have affected your like love relationship with events. If you, you know, from the sales perspective to the planner perspective to you know, now, kind of being a consultant, and so social media expert,

[sabrina_meyers]: absolutely, um, you know, I think it’s really allowed me to get to view the industry from so many different perspectives. Um. you know from the hotel perspective, I got to see it. You know from the supplier side, You know, how do you cater to clients? What do you do best in order to make that sale. How do you get leads? How do you account manage? How do you develop business, Um. And that, of course, how do you network? And how do you you know? Uh,  have a good time. kind of make those relationships, and Um, appreciate the travel

  and everything that comes with it and learn lots of things along the way. So the hotel side of things was definitely a great starting point. Um. And it’s true, I have had quite a few shifts and transformations and they’ve always been. Um. The catalyst for these have always been  something personal that has happened that has kind of pushed me in that  direction towards where I am today. Um. So from hotels, you know, I left Australia and I moved to London for a personal reason. Um. That was far than anything I could have ever imagined, and it really forced me to  relocate my life and make certain decisions. So I did do that, Um, and then, you know, Uh, when I moved into events, the event side of things really taught me a lot of grit. you know, Get your hands dirty. It is long hours. it is also um, uh, teamwork. How do you manage different personalities? How do you manage different people and getting stuff done? Um, how you need it done? How do you communicate? You know across cultures, Um, how do you you know? And a lot of that helps Because I was well-travelled already, so I was able to sort of understand  certain cultures, Um, and work around them. And if I didn’t I learned Um, because I was thrown into the deep end. Um. So you know, events really taught me the hard graft. I want to say.

[sabrina_meyers]: it also taught me the whole organization and planning side of things. Um, And then it also kind of makes you look at everything in a very. It’s kind of like the uh. like it makes your brain turn into like an Asana. You know. Like of your brain is this project management tool you know, and

[deanna_nwosu]: your brain is one giant Gantt chart.

[sabrina_meyers]: exactly and you’re just like. You’re like this Miro board. You’re just like drawing on. Right. That’s like what the inside of my brain looks like. Um, And so you know that’s what it? That’s what it gave me. And and I think it was it’s It’s been so amazing to be able able to be at both ends of the both sides of the coin because it allows me to approach problems and situations from both sides, which not everyone has you know in the industry. And I always recommend T you know. If you’re hiring, it’s so to be able to hire people that do have different perspectives, and if you’re looking for a job, try doing something on the other side and see what you learn. because it gives you so much perspective as well to do your job potentially better. Um, and then obviously social media. you know I always loved it personally. Um, I was that person checking in everywhere when Facebook was like released. Um, I don’t know why I did that. It was just the thing to do at the time, and you know, putting all my photo albums up and everything. But then I guess very early on I realized how powerful it was in what we did  as a job. You know what a powerful platform it is to be able to showcase so many different things, And why aren’t people doing it? You know, So it kind of um. I guess also pushed me into the world of Uh, design content creation, learning new skills that I never had before, Like learning how to use graphic, Uh programs and design programs, and a whole different  tool kit of of things, if you will, So you know, it kind of also made me  really appreciate the tech side of things, you know, Um, and and how to kind of really use all these amazing tools that are out there, Um to kind of better one’s marketing and branding and sales. You know, so, so I would say, those are kind of the three things that I’ve really kind of got along the way And it’s it’s yeah. it’s been one pivot to the other to the other to the other, all catalysted by personal milestones.

[deanna_nwosu]: You were pivoting long before it was a four letter word. Obviously

[sabrina_meyers]: That is true. Oh God, I said it, didn’t I? I told myself I wasn’t going to say it!

[deanna_nwosu]: you did you said the dreaded word should be like the the perpetuity drinking game in our industry. Like any anyone says that word, you take a shot, right

[sabrina_meyers]: exactly.

[deanna_nwosu]: One thing I love about you, Sabrina is your um, diverse background, which you kind of talked about a little bit, you know from a professional standpoint, but I love the multinationalism of your life. You know in terms of where your family was and you guys immigrated to Singapore, and that’s where you were born And then you’ve lived in London. You’ve lived in Australia. Can you talk about kind of how these different um like living environments, Because obviously it’s one thing to travel somewhere as a tourist. it’s another to actually live and work in a different country. How that’s really kind of, Um, your service, and kind of how your outlook is as an event professional. Having you know all these diverse experiences from, you know, as an expat, if you will, and  many times over,

[sabrina_meyers]: Absolutely, you know, I think I can only describe myself as a global citizen. I honestly don’t feel I belong to any country. If I had to pick one, it would be Singapore, no doubt, um. But, you know, I think you know, so I’ve lived. Obviously, I was born and raised in Singapore to migrant parents. Uh, my parents are from Bangladesh, Um, and so very early on, you know, I was very much brought into that community environment. You know. it takes a village to raise children. I was surrounded by other Bengali families, Um. I grew up in a very uh, loud, colorful and you know,  like what you see in monsoon wedding kind of  environment, right like my big fat, um, Greek wedding, but the Bengali version, So you know, I, I was all about that. That’s the culture I grew up in so it was very much you know about hospitality. It was about Um, food and hosting and inviting random strangers on the street back home that my father met in a Lyft, like really random stuff. Um. But you know, and then, so I grew up with that side of things. Um. but in Singapore itself you know, I always tell people I was born into diversity because it it is a melting pot. Um. I didn’t know anything different. Uh, you know, I didn’t know that there was uh. one main language. You know, we had four. We have four. uh, official languages in Singapore that you grew up with, not just one. So you know there was always, uh, you know our public holidays. There was always we were celebrating Chinese New Year, and Dipawali, and Ramadan and Christmas, So for me I was doing all the holidays. It was great to grow up there. I got all the days you know, Um. So from

[deanna_nwosu]: you just need to add, like the the Jewish holidays sprinkled those in as well,  And then you would have had the full circle

[sabrina_meyers]: exactly you know, Um, so from that perspective we we learn. we learned a lot. I learned a lot  about different cultures and what you know you would do, and you know you become much more tolerant and more um, open minded, and much more broad You know in your thinking and how you approach things, and and how you converse with people and communicate. So you know that obviously helped a lot in grounding, but obvious Singapore is you know everyone knows it. It’s a very strict country. It’s very conservative. you know, it’s it’s It’s not a liberal, open, countries, So you know everything was very. You know. There was al huge emphasis on education and it could be very stifling at some points. Um. So you know you really had to kind of, if you were a creative. it was hard. you know you had to find in those ways to kind of be creative. Um, and still do like the professional stuff, and kind of find your place. Um. so that was hard, but knew you pick it up and learn it along the way. Uh, then I moved to Australia, which was a complete other side of this right. It was like do what you want, freedom, you know, and it was the first time I stayed um, uh, away from home as I moved away from home and I was uh 18, and that’s dangerous when you’re eighteen and you’re from Singapore and you moved to Australia. It’s just I mean, it’s a shit  show. I, I can’t not like you know. it was like I don’t think my parents  heard from me for like a month after I landed, because I was just, I don’t  know. I was an oblivion. Um, but you know again, you know I was in Sydney.

[deanna_nwosu]: Yeah, I, I didn’t grow up, I didn’t grow up super conservative. I didn’t grow up super conservative, but my parents were a little more on the strict side than of my friends, so I can definitely identify with that going away to college, and like the chains being unleashed like “party, You know, I stay out late I can do what I want,” So Yeah, it’s really interesting how you had that That real kind of you know, restrictive environment and then were basically released into the the wild,

[sabrina_meyers]: yeah. literally I was and and I embraced it is. If you’ve met me and you  know me, I will just do stuff I will take. I will throw myself into anything Um and I did at that point, Um, and that’s  how I experienced it all. And you know, Um and again, Sydney was also another very much cultural melting pot. You know, we had a lot of international students. I was in an international, Uh. college. During my degree, Um, it was a very funny statistic. Is that like sixty  percent of this college were Norwegians

[deanna_nwosu]: that’s interesting,

[sabrina_meyers]: I have a ton of Norwegian friends. I know it’s really random. Um, So you know, I knew all these Im celebrating Norwegian National Day for like six years that I lived there Right. It was so bizarre. Um. I mean, I visited like the Siemens church, so random, but Um.But what you know, living there also, or living or moving and living in different places also teaches you is you know you learn old li nitty gritty of you know, renting an apartment and what you need to do and signing up to gas and water. What do you need to do? And these are all things you don’t experience as you know as a traveller or a tourist, but you really get you know into it when you lived somewhere. Of course every country functions differently, Um, so you know there was. I didn’t have to worry about that stuff when I lived in Singapore, ’cause I, you know I lived with my parents, but then Australia was where I kind of became an adult, so to speak like, got to work. I worked as a barista, A first as a waitress in a chocolate cafe, chocolate coffee cafe, Um, and then Id be worked my way up to like head barista, I was making like two hundred coffees every morning and I loved it. Um. And that’s how I would pay my rent, you know, and I lived my with. Um. It was the first time I, I lived in an apartment with another

[sabrina_meyers]: person that I didn’t know, and it was a boy. No, we weren’t together, but you know, Uh, that already raised some eyebrows with my parents ’cause they were like we send you to Australia and you’re living with a boy like it was just like carnage. Um, but but you know it was two bedroom apartment. He had a girlfriend. You know we were friends and classmates, Um, and he was very responsible and you know, Um. it was really nice also to adult. You know, you learned how to live with another person, how to clean, how to cook, how to pay your bills, how to work for a living, And all those values came when I moved to Australia and taking care of myself, You know which I never had to do. So that was what Australia gave me, Um, and then I moved to London, where that continued and you go through the motions again of all the red tape and bureaucracy of you know, signing up to Internet and doing your lease and paying council text and all this rubbish. And you know you just kind of get better at it. Is’s just the same same, but different, Um, but I think when you travel it just gets easier as a person to connect with other people, regardless of what the culture is, or even if they can’t communicate, You find a way you know, and I think that’s what. living in different places, It’s given me a lot of patience.  It’s given me a lot of um. perspective. you know that. Okay, you know, instead of getting angry, I actually go. wait. How are they? Um, how are they? Uh, understanding what’s happening right now, Not not me getting upset about it, but maybe they’ve mis. you know, misunderstood what what is happening and they’re reacting the way that they’re reacting, as  opposed to me being defensive and going for it. So I think that’s kind of you know what Um was made, kind of uh evident with all the moves that I had, Um. And it’s you know I, I always say it’s like brick by brick, the person that you become right. 

[sabrina_meyers]: h So uh, and then my last move was to Germany, because my

husband’s German and I live here in Cologne, just outside of Cologne, with a little boy, Um. And that was another huge transition of moving to a country where you don’t speak the language where it is a very different culture to England. and you have to get used to not only um, living in a new country learning a new language, but also becoming a mother. It was kind of three things that all happened at once. Um, so you can definitely say I grew a  lot, Um, I, definitely, for lack of better words, I don’t sweat the small stuff. It takes a lot to really get a rise out of me and I’m very resourceful.

[deanna_nwosu]: Oh, very very good. Yeah, I think the diversity of experiences you’ve had just can make you kind of think on the fly quickly when you need to react to and adapt to change, right,

[sabrina_meyers]: Oh yeah, absolutely, you just learn. You just got a you. I’ve never, I’ve always been flight – no, FIGHT. I’ve always been fight. Never flight on a flight. But

[deanna_nwosu]: gotcha. now, uh, uh, I want to kind of go, uh, I’m to do fun. little kind of activity. I want to ask. I want to say the name of the country, Um,  because we’re going to kind of go through your experience of where you’ve lived in your background and I want you to give like one word. but it’s hard one word to kind of encapsulate your memory or your perspective on that. All right and we’ll, start with Bangladeshcause. That’s where your parents are from and that’s kind of your home culture. Um, so one word to encapsulate it,

[deanna_nwosu]: So Bangladesh,

[sabrina_meyers]: loud

[deanna_nwosu]: Singapore,

[sabrina_meyers]: food

[deanna_nwosu]: um Australia,

[sabrina_meyers]: friendship

[deanna_nwosu]: friendship, uh, England

[sabrina_meyers]: party

[deanna_nwosu]: and Germany,

[sabrina_meyers]: suburbia,

[deanna_nwosu]: Suburbia. Well, I feel like you’re in that phase of life right. It speaks to where you’re at. Um, And and I have to know how many languages do you actually speak Or can you understand which? What’s your? kind? of? Uh. Where are you? on the polyglot system?

[sabrina_meyers]: oh gosh. So English, German, Bengali, uh, Malay, Hindi, Urdu – I understand. And then you know it’s peppered with like I understand, little bits of French. I understand, uh, little bit of Italian, Um, nothing that’s going to you know, get me a job or anything. But I could get by in those scenarios and a ton of uh swear words in Mandarin,

[deanna_nwosu]: that’s kind of the first thing you’ve got to learn Right, in each language

[sabrina_meyers]: and a lot of people say. You know that you know Um, like Australian slang, and uh, Singapore-English, which is called Singlish, languages of their own,  so I’m going to add those two to the polyglot.

[deanna_nwosu]: all right, So we’ll add that to the official. We have to make a graphic when we, uh, when we uh, market this podcast. Just you know, encapsulating like a gant chart of your like language experience alone, right, Oh my God, this is funny. this is hilarious. Um, so, uh, Sabrina. we’ve talked a lot. kind of about your multinational experience. You know how that relates to your events, And you know you even mentioned that your love of travel was birth early on, you know, from your family experience, But then as an adult you’ve done a ton of business travel. Can you kind of

[sabrina_meyers]: Oh, yeah,

[deanna_nwosu]: talk about what it looks like when you travel with your family? I know you just did  like an epic vacation in France, and with all the um, uh, wines.

[deanna_nwosu]: I was following you on your insta stories, and the vineyards you went to and um where. Whereas you do like your business trouble, I know you’ve got a trip coming out for the digital disruptor next week. I know this is going to air months later, but we’ve got to talk about what your travel experience looks like when it’s personal versus business.

[sabrina_meyers]: that’s a great question. I don’t think I’ve ever been asked that fabulous. wonderful.

[deanna_nwosu]: Oh, thank you. I try. I try to ask, you know, the questions that need answered. You know if they’re already on the internet, then they don’t need answered.

[sabrina_meyers]: Yeah, um, you know when I travel personally, like with my family, for example, Um, which is most of the times. Um, it’s obviously very different from when I travel for business. So uh with the family. Um, My husband is a very different traveller to me. He’s a real homebody. So you know, he is one of those people that you know when I say, let’s go on holiday in his head. That’s him. ▁lying, on a a, like a a beach, Uh, bed, Um, and doing nothing for seven days right except like you’re basically your all-inclusive, like a dream guest. All they do is lie there, Go eat three times. come back and lie there. Maybe go to the pool. They never leave the resort. Um, that is like my absolute nightmare because I cannot. I, I am not that person. Um,

[deanna_nwosu]: right

[sabrina_meyers]: So what I tend to do is I. I. I manage those expectations by planning ahead as the event planner that I am. I plan the holidays too, and I say these are the days we can chill, and these are the days that we’re actually going to get to know the country and the city that we’re going to. So you know, I, I google a lot. I, I follow lots of travel bloggers and I’m especially obsessed with. Uh, “Somebody feed Phil” um on Netflix. If you haven’t seen it, you absolutely should, Um, and I’m a big foodie.

[deanna_nwosu]: I think you’re like the third or fourth recommendation I’ve had for that show so I definitely need to check it out.

[sabrina_meyers]: You got to watch it and so I’m a huge foodie. So the first thing I will do whether I travel for business or for personal is I will research the crap out of that destination in terms of what is good to eat. Where can I go? Where can I go to eat the local food? What’s good? Um, what do you know? I am a big, uh, coffee. Add it so I love exploring and finding co, um cafes to go to cute cafes. Um, and uh, yeah, right now as a mother, Uh, a lot of my family holidays are also dictated around keeping the little one entertained as well as us. So finding things to do that kind of meet the whole family’s uh requirements.

[sabrina_meyers]: So they look very different when I travel personally. Like for business, Um, I do the same kind of research and planning. Um. but obviously I also, um. see if, first of all, if I know anyone where I’m going. Um, I always like to extend my stay by a day or two, because I love being able to experience the destination myself and see things I want to see. So to give you an example, going to Stavanger, Uh next week. Oh my god, Um, and I’ve got like a list of like cafes I want to go check out. You know, I’m obsessed with street art and graffiti, so um, nine times out of ten I will do all these like street art walks. you know, Um, and then I would love to at least experience one or two like really cool, like high-end michelin restaurants, Because I love that, Um, and then try to book in  like site inspections at really cool hotels, because obviously, I, you know, I still do my blog and I want to do a travel blog of my experiences. Um, so yeah, I mean they’re they. They look very different. Um, but uh, I guess the consistent thread is that I’m definitely an explorer. Um. I’m not someone that’s going to sit on a bed like a a beach bed for six days and do nothing. I just can’t. I literally will. The demons in my head will haunt me and get me up. So yeah,

[deanna_nwosu]: That makes sense. And um, I’m imagining with all your Norwegian friends that you’ve got some dates lined up right

[sabrina_meyers]: I do. I mean, I know Heidi’s probably going to keep me pretty busy. She’s already asked me if I have hiking shoes, so I guess I’m going hiking. Um,

[deanna_nwosu]: Oh nice. oh, nice.

[sabrina_meyers]: so, um, so yeah, I mean, I love trying local food. so if there’s anything local to like the cuisine, Um, uh, then I will definitely want to go and try out what that is. Um, and yeah, I. I. I think I have a few friends that do. still. Maybe I’m not in touch with them anymore, but I’ve I’ve sent out a message going. I’m headed to Stavanger, Norway. If you are, still, you know, interested and you want to  meet up. Drop me a message. Um, so let’s see if anybody response. but we don’t know

[deanna_nwosu]: love it. So one kind of fun question I thought of is you were talking about your different experiences in where you’ve lived and what you try and do, especially with you wanting to try the coffee, cause you know you were a former barista coffee extraordinaire,

[sabrina_meyers]: I was mhm.

[deanna_nwosu]: What’s your favorite? Either, your favorite coffee are kind of like a coffee experience that you’ve had in all your travels

[sabrina_meyers]: Oh, wow, so my favorite experience was and this is something you cannot have everyday cause. You would be obese, but – Um, it was a Fam trip, uh, organized by Switzerland. Um, and the Dorchester collection. This is when I was living in London. I was on the uh, event planner side of things. I worked at this, Uh, the agency that we founded and it was a small group of us and we were doing a trip from  Um. like it was three destinations and one of the destinations was Uh, Rome, And we went to some  place in Rome. Um, No, not Ro. I’m sorry. I’m getting this all wrong. It was Milan. Sorry, Milan. It was because the Dorch’, The collection hotel in Milan Hello, Yes,

[deanna_nwosu]: Italy, same, same country. Apologies to any Italians that are listening, right,

[sabrina_meyers]: exactly, it was Italy, Um Dorchester, That’s right. So it was. We stayed at the Dorchester, Uh Collection hotel, which is like a country house  resort outside of London for a night. Then we flew to Um. Milan, and then we went from there to Switzerland. be cause. there was three properties and it  was like three nights phenomenal trip. Um. And when we were in Milan, a beautiful hotel. By the way there for Doster collection Um, there’s a little area, Um. And it’s got like a little canal that runs through it, And there’s  always like little cafes and things along the side and they had  if we went in insect, Oh Sabrina. you have to try a n nutellino. You probably know what’s coming up now, So I was like What is a nutellino? So basically it’s like an espresso cup And there was a huge vat of melted Nutella,  so they would take a scoop of melted Nutella and basically fill up the sides  and the inside of this little espresso cup. Then they would put a shot of espresso, then they would put like a minute amount of froth, and then they would put another huge amount of Nutella on top. and that was the coffee and I was like just looking at it for about five seconds. The five minutes. just like I don’t. I mean what is this and it was incredible? It really was.  It was just incredible. It was like a heart attack in a cup, but it was so good.  I’ll never forget it just because it was this wild factor and I, you know I  love Nutella, who doesn’t? But you know it was just like these two things  that come together and you’re in Mila and like what’s must to love. So it was. That’s probably my most like memorable coffee moment so far.

[deanna_nwosu]: it sounds. it sounds like like the creamiest meltiest coffee you can ever  have, right.

[sabrina_meyers]: Oh my god, it really was. I don’t even taste  coffee. You just tasted like liquid Nutella. pretty much,

[deanna_nwosu]: Yeah, as you mentioned, that’s prob. That’s definitely not something you could do every day. Absolutely. well, we’re coming towards the end of our time. Um, and I put everyone on the spot with this question, so I have to do it to as well. But if you could take one, if you could pick one song to kind of encapsulate, you know, like the conversation we’ve have today, or you know, your love journey with the events  and travel. What would it be? And why?

[sabrina_meyers]: so I’m going to go with this one classic song that I have always heard. Uh,  is my feel good song. It reminds me of travel, few good moments. I think  we’ve had an awesome time here today. You know, it’s made me very happy and joyful. And that song is The girl from Ipanema, Uh, from Stan Getz and I think Jao Gilberto. It’s a classic. It’s old. It’s boss and nova, but it just is such a cool song and it always puts me in a good mood And it just mean. I just feel like I want to be on a beach somewhere with a cocktail and just having a great  time and chill, And that’s how travel and hotels and events should always be  so

[deanna_nwosu]: Absolutely? um, I believe that travel and events introduced to new people, places and things. And the thing I love about asking that question is I  always. I don’t think people have said one song that I’ve known, so I keep  getting new music suggestions and I keep adding new things to my spotify playlist. So it’s like the little sweet surprise at the end of these episodes.

[deanna_nwosu]: Well, Sabrina. I’ve loved having you on today. This was really fun chat. Um,  I feel like I need to get my travel up after speaking with you because you’ve

just you, just experience so much in your lifetime. But uh before we sign off, please tell the people where they can find you on the interwebs.

[sabrina_meyers]: absolutely. I’m probably the easiest person to find online. So um,  I am on Instagram, um. Twitter, Facebook linked in as well as have my Youtube  channel. Um, So you can reach out to me basically on any of those social media platforms. My handle is hot hospitalite with a E at the end. Um, and yeah, I’m probably most active on Instagram, LinkedIn, Um, and am always  super duper, excited to reach out and meet and connect with everyone and  anyone. Um. you know the world is huge. Let’s connect. Uh. look, Me and Deanna are like besties, and we’ve never met yet. So you know it’s the power of the internet. We’re like the me, masters of the events industry, So you know that only came to me Masters, exactly.

[deanna_nwosu]: yes, meme masters. Okay, that’s a new new thing. I’m adding to my headline. The social media expert has given me my title as meme Master. It’s going in my headline

[sabrina_meyers]: love it.

[deanna_nwosu]: Thank you so much, Sabrina.

[sabrina_meyers]: Thank you for having me, and uh yeah, thank you for Um, to everyone. that’s listening, thanks for listening. bye.

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